TSI Salutes: The Unabridged Isiah Thomas/John Stockton Story

Springfield, Mass. is the only place where this reconciliation could happen. Watching Isiah Thomas present John Stockton at the Hall of Fame induction ceremony was proof to me that Springfield was basketball heaven, a place where things just come full circle. Some of you may not share my frame of reference, growing up as an avid fan of Detroit Piston basketball in the late 80′s and early 90′s. The Bad Boy teams were part of a new physical style of basketball that was already being played on the blacktops in every urban neighborhood.
So, you can imagine my disappointment in September 1991 when the 1992 U.S. Basketball Team--The Dream Team--was announced and Isiah, 2-time NBA Champion and perennial All-Star, was not on the final roster. He was unfortunately beaten out by Stockton. Stockton was, in his own right, a great player but the consensus in the basketball world was that Isiah was snubbed. Reading this post, you may think, Isiah obviously took the high-road because here he was introducing Stockton at the Basketball Hall of Fame induction ceremonies. Well that isn’t exactly how the story went.
November 15, 1991 … Isiah is roughly two months removed from learning his fate of being snubbed from Dream Team I. The Pistons are playing a home game that night against what would turn to be his nemesis and Dream Team I replacement, Stockton and the Utah Jazz. What ensued was a very personal and determined exploitation of the weaknesses in Stockton’s game. Stockton’s inability to stay in front of Isiah lead him to falling victim to a 44-point performance from Isiah (editor’s note: Darrell Walker had 15 pts, 9 ast, and 7 reb; Melvin Underwood note: Lance Blanks borrowed my Al B. Sure leather trench coat and never returned it). That was topped with an eight-point loss to the Pistons. Stockton tried to steer clear of the controversy, but Isiah’s pride was hurt and he wanted the public to know that this was a grave mistake. Mission accomplished.
It would be all well and good if it stopped there. But it didn’t. On December 14, 1991, Isiah and the Pistons traveled to Salt Lake to play the Jazz. This game started very similar to the way the first game ended. Isiah was attacking the rim and really taking the ball to Stockton. He recorded 6 points and 2 assists in the first eight minutes of the game. Whispers at the scorers table and media row were citing the previous meeting and Isiah’s displeasure with being left off of the Dream Team. That’s when this happened:
Jazz forward Karl Malone took matters into his own hands and decided to send a message that Isiah was not going to embarrass his teammate again. The result was 40 stitches over Isiah’s left eye. The next year, Isiah dropped another 40 on John Stockton’s face in their first meeting, but talk of the snubbing and the growing beef between Isiah and Stockton dissipated over time.
Today, it seems that the Hall of Fame helps pro basketball players put things aside for the love of the game. It was very classy for Isiah and Stockton to put their shaky past behind them and honor each other as great basketball players. And honestly, Kenny Badd could have played point guard for Dream Team I and the result would have still been the same: gold medals going away. At the end of the day, no one can take anything away from either of these guys. They were truly great and pillars of the game. And it is refreshing to see their relationship come full circle in a manner that shows the humility and class of both individuals. I guess Springfield truly is basketball heaven.



SHOTS FIRED!!!!!!! LMAO
*fines both players for shorts*
You’re an idiot. You’re attempting to compare a pass-first guard (unquestionably the best in history) to a me-first scoring guard. Of course, Isaiah is going to score, that’s what he did. Stockton isn’t known for scoring, he’s known for passing, which he did better than any basketball player that ever lived. The Dream Team didn’t need another scorer, it needed someone to distribute the ball to the marquis scorers, otherwise the demonstration of American basketball dominance that was the Barcelona Olympics would have been, instead, a showcase of ballhoggery and street ball hoops. The only thing missing would have been the wannabe baller on the mic yelling – “Oh Baby!” after every show-off juke and dunk. That’s not basketball… Basketball is still a team game.
Well sir, I appreciate the comment. However, I have to disagree with your assessment that the “Dream Team didn’t need another scorer” I would have to assert that in 1992, the US Olympic Basketball team didn’t NEED anything. I would say that we all understood the first Dream Team to be what it was–a lifetime achievement award for active players in the NBA. Because of that, there was as I believed, along with a solid majority of fans and public opinion drivers, a questionable snub from that team: Isaiah Thomas. Now if you want to hold his recent transgressions against him, I understand. But at the time of naming the 1992 US Olympic Basketball Team, Isaiah was flat out more deserving than John Stockton. Period. He had just recently won back to back NBA Titles. Now I agree with many that John Stockton is one of the great NBA point guards and the simple fact that he is the all-time leader in career assists is phenomenal. But, in a TEAM GAME, as you so eloquently pointed out, shouldn’t team championships count for something? I understand that you may be a long time Stockton supporter, or even just hate the guts of Isaiah, but your facts are leaning a little more to the side of rhetoric than fact. For example, a “score-first” point guard doesn’t average 9.3 assists a game over a career. It just doesn’t happen like that. You should look at the career averages for a Tony Parker for a proper comparison.
Again thanks for the reply and I welcome your readership and continued debate.
My favorite players together! Awesome! Now I’m more inspired to write my college essay.
Uhh, Stockton had 20 and 13 in this game in 8 less minutes… I’m not sayin Isiah didn’t outplay him in this game, he did. But it’s not like Stockton put up a stinker…
Stockton took 10 shots and made 6, for argument sake let’s say both guys assists were on no 3 pointers.. 20 + (13*2) = 46 Isiah – 44 + (4*2) = 52
Isiah accounted for 6 more of his teams points than Stockton in this game… I guess Stockton could of been selfish and got out of his game to take 25 shots but there’s not a me-first bone in the guys body… I think everybody needs to calm down a little bit with this game
You say Stockton could have been more selfish and taken 25 shots? Do you realize that Stockton couldn’t create his shot well enough on his own to even take 25 shots? He wasn’t a one-on-one player who could create his own offense whenever he wanted. Stockton scored primarily on open jumpers off of pick-and-roll action or on jumpers after receiving the ball from a teammate who had been doubled. Not every player has the ability to take over a game and lead his team to victory via his own individual talent. Isiah could do this and this is why he was a better basketball player than Stockton.
Taking over a game can’t always be labeled as being selfish. Sometimes stars have to rescue their teams if the team isn’t doing anything collectively. Isiah could do this. Jordan could do this. Stockton could not. He was still a great player but his game didn’t incorporate this special aspect that separates the very good from the great.
And the guy who said Isiah was a “me first” point guard is an idiot who obviously didn’t watch him play. Isiah had 4 consective years of averaging over 20 points a game along with over 10 assists a game. Isiah could get everyone involved and still get his and be successful at doing this (two championships compared to none for Stockton). Like someone else said, a “me first” point guard doesn’t average over 9 assists a game for his career. Allen Iverson was a “me first” point guard (that’s why he eventually was moved to the SG position). Isiah was a pass first point guard who could still score big when his team needed it (unlike Stockton).
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